Why do American Cititizens complain that illegal immigrants are taking away resources here in the United States?
Do you see 12 and 14 year old kids working in the streets instead of going to school? Do you see families of 5 living on the streets? All of these things are from the countries of these illegal immigrants, they come here to have a better life.
American cititzens shouldn’t WHINE too much about them paying too many taxes because at least they can all put food on the table. They should blame the war on Iraq if they feel they are paying too much taxes. It is estimated that the war will possibly end in about 8 years more, amounting a total of 1 TRILLION dollar….yes i typed TRILLION.
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How is that our fault? Why don’t they use the USA as a model for their own country rather than steal from us?
Should we just let all 6 billion people in the world come here?
James on July 1st, 2007 at 9:34 pm | Link
James should you spend 1 Trillion Dollars on Destroying other peoples lives,Homes and Countries ?
James - Oh so you are a native American? Of course not, your family came here as immigrants as well not so long ago…
Mike on July 2nd, 2007 at 6:05 am | Link
James - Illegal are not stealing from “you”. It is actually american citizens that steal from them, usually at their job where they pay illegal immigrants much lower than they are required to pay. Who is stealing from who here?? Now if illegal immigrants would have been become legalized this past week then they would given a SSN and now they could have been able to pay taxes and everythhing else “some” american citizes are wining about. But NO , since the senate is so selfish and ignorant when it comes to dealing an issue that has existed since the creation of the US.
Christian on July 2nd, 2007 at 10:17 am | Link
james, cluelessness this thick is impenetrable. props for your optimism in giving it a shot though.
As far as what they earn have you looked at the wages for illegals. many will not even look at a job for less than $10.00/ hr. Yes they are stealing from us they are taking our resourses. As far as the war in iraq HELLO these people blew up our buildings! (yeah yeah go ahead spout your liberal garb there is no evidence) but we all know better than that! Remember this is sadam and osama we are talking about here. I suppose you would rather pay the taxes to the muslim extremists, you all know they desire control of the world and that we all become muslim. Yeah james I agree,” cluelessness this thick is impenetrable.”
My wife came here as an imigrant a LEGAL one which cost thousands of dollars and countless months of red tape. but these people just walk in and are rewarded.
mark on July 10th, 2007 at 8:01 pm | Link
“As far as the war in iraq HELLO these people blew up our buildings! (yeah yeah go ahead spout your liberal garb there is no evidence) but we all know better than that! Remember this is sadam and osama we are talking about here. ”
-mark
I’m afraid Sir that you have been conned by the US media into believing Sadam and Osama are the same. Let me remind you that to this day there is NO EVIDENCE linking Sadam to the 9/11 plot and there is NO EVIDENCE of weapons of mass destruction (the purported reason for the Iraqui invasion once they couldn’t find a link between Sadam and Osama.)
“I suppose you would rather pay the taxes to the muslim extremists, you all know they desire control of the world and that we all become muslim.”
-mark
The first part of this comment is a false dillema between paying taxes to the government or to “muslim extremists.” Then you make the dubious claim that we all know they want to control the world.
To provide any kind of monetary support to terrorists is an act of treason, however our tax dollars are used to fund acts of terrorism against Palestinian’s through Israel. Our tax dollars are also used to support Colombian President Alvaro Uribe, who has known ties to right-wing paramillitary death squads responsible for the deaths of Labor Union leaders. If you look closely at the facts you’ll learn that it is really the US that wants to control the world and that your tax dollars are paying the bill. Think about how many active millitary bases the US has around the world. Think about how the US influences economic policy in other countries through the IMF, the World Bank, the Council on Foreign Relations, the IAD, etc… Think dude, think!
“but these people just walk in and are rewarded”
-mark
I guess having to work the worst jobs with the least pay must be a reward in your mind. Or living in poor neighborhoods, having your children attend the worst public schools, having to live in fear, etc.., must also be a reward for you. Mark my problem with your claim is that it is completely devoid of content to back it up. As far as anyone can tell it is just your opinion… and opinions are like assholes - everyone has one and they all stink.
The Logos on April 14th, 2008 at 8:56 am | Link
@Logos
No sir the media preaches quite the opposite that there is no link to Sadam and Osama and September 11th. No Con here.
Ok so let back up a little here. What are we fighting? We are fighting terrorists plan and simple this is a new type of enemy we are not fighting an organized army supported by a government so to speak. We are fighting those who are extremist and want us dead. Yes they are lead by both Osama Bin Ladin and Sadam Hussein.
So you say there is no evidence of WMD? How quickly we forget the little known reports of the IEDs which contained WMD materials. Ok so ill even give you a pass on that. What about the common knowledge that Sadam used WMDs on his own people who were the unruly followers? Ok ill give you a pass on that even. But you must in turn acknowledge I never once argued WMDs. (oh yeah and what about the airplanes they flew into our buildings yep again not WMD are they?)
And no the reason for invading Iraq is not purported to be WMDs. It was very clear in GWs speech it was a Multi part reason. Want sources check it out (Sept 20, 2001 speech by GW).
We will eliminate all terrorist groups, we will pursue nations who provide safe harbor to terrorist groups.
Sadam Hussein failed to cooperate with the international community and 16 some UN resolutions. As well a brutal oppression of his own people I believe are all reasons stated in GW speeches leading up to the war in IRAQ (against terrorists).
Paying taxes to the Muslim extremists is an oversimplification (to illustrate a point) that if left unchecked these terrorists will overtake us and will charge us taxes. You sir need to look at the fact and remember history when we in this country did indeed pay our taxes to the church of England!
Now as for The USA wanting to control the world is this why every time we a drug into a war by provocation we get busy and pulverize our opponent and then pay to rebuild them leaving them a sovereign country?
As for our tax dollars going to some very bad nefarious people well it is common knowledge that sometime we have get into bed with some really bad people to get the intell we need to get the accesses we need etc. etc. In fact it was not long ago that we were supporting sadam Hussein when he was at war with Iran. That is what the CIA Is for. right or wrong good or bad this is a topic for another discussion.
As for the controlling central bank, world bank, federal reserve… these are all private corporations profiteering of the stupidity of the American people as well as the worlds people. This is not our government it is the Rockefellers, the Rothschild’s and the Bilderbergs. Yeah you do your research and find your facts. the worlds wealth is held in trust of three families. So you DUDE are the one who needs to think !!
When you have something other people want, know others want to know or when you do something others would like to do you will be opposed. Others will try to take those things from you. Our military is defending what we have DUDE! Our military is also protecting many other nations on our dime.
Yeah they are rewarded with no consequence for breaking our laws. I had to pay thousands of dollars to get my wife here legally (yep a punishment when you look at in the light of illegals it costs them nothing) then they get to use our public services without ever paying a dime for them! If my wife were to ever apply for a public service guess who gets to pay for it. Yep me I had to sign a document stating I would reimburse the government if my wife ever used a public service even though she is here legally and working in the USA legally and paying taxes for these services.
Now let see you bring some facts with verifiable sources to the table you have done nothing more than what you have accused me of made basless claims with sorces no references and not content to even make it an intelligible argument.
And must I end here with the same thing I so often have to say is why do you liberal types allways resort to foul language completey unrealated to anything your talking about to make a point?
mark on April 14th, 2008 at 2:16 pm | Link
***NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION GUYS. IF YOU WANT EXTREMIST, LOOK AT YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT. BUSH DID NOT EVEN WIN THE ELECTIONS. **1 TRILLION DOLLARS AND A LOT MURDERS TO SECURE THE BIGGEST OIL RESERVES IN THE WORLD, TO DRIVE AROUND FAT ARSES IN SUVS SEEMS A BIT STEEP DOESN’T IT? I CALL THAT EXTREME!!!!
mao fab on June 27th, 2008 at 10:03 pm | Link
@logos
The first part of this comment is a false dillema between paying taxes to the government or to “muslim extremists.” Then you make the dubious claim that we all know they want to control the world.
Just wanted to point out they themselves call it Jihad (whollywar). Need I say more?
@mao fab
Yes, There have been weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq, Yep not huge stockpiles but they are there. So where are the stockpiles that intel siad were there. My bet is that intel was not wrong we just lost them (which is an equally big if not bigger blunder then mistaken them being there).
Bush did win our election (yep twice) just cause an election is contested does not mean it is flawed. The supreme court ruled GW won the election enogh said.
The larger oil reserves in the world actually happen to be in the USA Have you herd of Alaska ANWR, Have you heard of the large deposits of oil in northwest colorado. well we can’t touch em cuz of the liberals and thier environmentalist freinds. (another argument here).
If the war were for oil don’t you think we would now have cheaper gas prices instead of 3 to 4 times what we were paying at the onset of the war? (dumb)
And again I must ask mao fab why do you liberal types have to resort to yelling (rude) and foul language to try and illustrate your points.
mark on July 8th, 2008 at 10:04 am | Link