Every town in America is overrun with Mexicans. They take jobs, start gangs, commit crimes, don’t learn english, crowd the roads, bring down apartment complexes and take them over, cost tax payers thousands of dollars and so on. Can’t we do something?
My biggest complaint about the whole thing is I don’t know how many more Mexicans we are going to take.
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You’re right man, I’m glad to see Native American Indians finally getting together and sticking up for themselves. After we get all the Mexicans back across the border we should refocus our energy on white people.
What? You’re not Native American? You’ve got to be sh*tting me? How in the hell could anybody but a Native American have the right to say anything like this?
tonto on August 20th, 2007 at 5:07 pm | Link
“tonto” means stupid.
tonto’s comment comports with this fact.
I hope a Mexican takes your job so that you can’t afford internet access any more.
I think our poster is refering to illegal immigrants, but on the other hand the poster did not mention the houses these people build, the motels they clean, the businesses they start oh yeah he did he siad they take our jobs away. Native american, mexican, white, black or whatever you may happen to be and if your legally in america you should be proud and protective of your country. You should hold the belief that we need to protect our borders and our jobs and our economy for the sake of ALL of the good american citizens and residents and not open our borders for a free for all takeover.
Mark on August 23rd, 2007 at 3:32 pm | Link
I think it’s ironic when people talk about how the “Mexicans” are taking everybody’s jobs, as if the Mexicans are taking the really good high paying jobs. My experience is that the people that usually say these sorts of things are fat lazy racist white people, who don’t have jobs because they are too lazy to work or to work hard enough to get promoted. They complain because the Mexicans are willing to take the jobs that they feel are beneath them. So they do nothing or what they do, they don’t do well. Ironic.
When is the last time you went into a hospital, or lawyers office, or university and saw a bunch of Mexican doctors, lawyers, and professors? Whew boy, let me tell you, the last time i went to my doctors office, none of the doctors even spoke English. Phew, Congress, where are you going to find a white guy around there. Dang nappit, the problem with this country is that all the Mexicans are tenured college professors……..
Actually there is a dentist in my hometown who happens to be Mexican. There are a lot of very affluent wealthy hard working educated and intelligent Mexican people. It is not only mexicans but our borders in general if we open our country as a free for all then we will have more than just problems.
sounds like your the racisit robby! We are in America we are Americans (no matter our race) don’t like leave!
Mark on August 29th, 2007 at 3:52 pm | Link
[quote]Actually there is a dentist in my hometown who happens to be Mexican. There are a lot of very affluent wealthy hard working educated and intelligent Mexican people. It is not only mexicans but our borders in general if we open our country as a free for all then we will have more than just problems.
sounds like your the racisit robby! We are in America we are Americans (no matter our race) don’t like leave![/quote]
Are there some Mexicans that are well off? Of course there are. And there are hard working educated Latinos in most classes. The original complaint was clearly anti-Mexicans and were describing Mexicans that were much different those you or I mentioned. If you are arguing that the jobs most mexicans take are white collar ones, then I’m afraid its just not supported by the facts.
I don’t want anybody to leave, including myself. There is a difference between dialog that supports sound immigration policy and that which is clearly racist.
robby on August 29th, 2007 at 4:29 pm | Link
Ok point taken and agreed most jobs illegal immigrants are taking are not white collar jobs but hey white collar jobs are not the only Good jobs out there.
My real argument is that I see this complaint as somewhat mispoken as anti-mexican when in reality it seems to me anit Illegal imigrant. (most of which happen to be mexican due mostly to geography). And yes people who migrat to this country illegally do take jobs and use taxpayer resources. (some of those jobs are those which our fathers and grandfathers were not too proud to do and in many cases our fathers and children are quite content with today). Yes illegals do occupy many of these jobs, yes many americans do not want to do these jobs, however many americans do hold these jobs.
Now the real meat of the issue being a free market economy as we are in the USA these jobs are filled with the so to speak lowest bidder. This does two things it lowers cost to the business owners and may even lower final cost of products such as milk, houses etc. This increases profit for the business owners and may lower costs to consumers sounds good right? Well not allways take walmart for example if they sell so much cheaper than everyone else that everyone shops there and others go out of business then eventually everyone works for walmart and are paid what walmart wants to pay!
Cheap is never the best, and low cost is not allways the most prosperous approach.
(yes re-reading the original post is does appear very racist and appears to blame societal decay on a race and does fail to address the real issues and problems. which is see as highly permeable borders, and bad parenting … ok another topic…)
Mark on August 30th, 2007 at 8:41 am | Link
Not all jobs done by Mexicans are cheap labor jobs. We hire Mexicans at the same rate of pay as others and we hope that all of them are legal as they show us their information and we can only hope that it is really theirs. Alot of other races don’t want to do menial work and therefore are giving the jobs over to the Mexicans. The one new law that is being passed or is passed is the one that fines the employers for hiring illegals. This one ticks me off because the Government is THE largest employer of illegals, especially in security areas. If they cannot tell by documentation that they are illegal how are we suppose to know if documents are false? I don’t have a problem with Mexicans if they are legal. But I do have a problem with a government that keeps trying to figure out a way to deal with illegals.
The word ILLEGAL should say it all, its against the Law, so why do they have to figure out how to deal with them. Does not matter what country you are from , if illegal is in front of your name, out you go or to jail you go. How hard is that? From every service illegals have, from health care, education, Credit Cards , all of it, eventually comes back to the taxpayers in covering the costs. Forget all of this and try to wrap your brain around security, If hundreds of thousands of illegals
can come into this country and achieve residency and drivers liscences etc, why the hell do we have a special branch called homeland security? I don”t feel real secure.
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dee on October 22nd, 2007 at 10:40 pm | Link
You summed it up very well Dee, and I couldnt agree more.
Mark on October 23rd, 2007 at 8:45 am | Link
I am writing a research paper on the subject of whether illegal immigration exists. Thats right. My main argument is that the United States was founded by illegal immigrants. Have any of you over-opinionated people heard of the Wampanoag contracts that William Bradford signed in March of 1621? Why don’t you get off your fat asses and google it and get some real facts, not opinions.
student in high school on November 16th, 2007 at 9:28 am | Link
Have you ever heard of the word Hoax or conspiracy (michael more). It is not likely that an Indian tribe of nearly 400 years ago had the language skills to negotiate such a treaty with someone of European origin. I suppose you would rather go back to the days of bow and arrow, famine and disease.
There are so many facts as you say get some real facts (student in high school) that need to be asertained. The real argument is not one of the 1600’s it is one of today which has nothing to do with anything 400 years ago.
Ok so lets even assume that the USA was founded by illegal immigrants, well they overcame and now have their own body of laws which rule today. So I say it to you the current illegals must either overcome and overtake make their own laws or abide by ours.
Oh and I ask again why are you liberal types so quick to use foul language and rhyms in your arguments?
jujubean on November 17th, 2007 at 4:40 pm | Link
**** you homy if your native american stand up for this have some pride
Michael on November 28th, 2007 at 9:27 pm | Link
Hye yeah juju your right why do those liberal types so quickly use foul languge in their arguments and “homy” we start with the unintelligible slang.
I suppose the alleged contract with the indians read somewhat less intelligable then my little example below….
I homy of the first part do by the essence of this spice peace bro with the homy of the second part!
mark on November 30th, 2007 at 3:44 pm | Link
F#ck illegals, send them all back.
IAN on January 9th, 2008 at 2:12 pm | Link
do any of you know why most illegal immigrants are even here, they are here because their homes before they came the united states had no roofs or no running water. they came from nothing to the united states, breaking the law while they did it, to try and find a better life for their family. most are only here to help their familes, and most human beings would do anything for their families, at least a man would.
juan on February 15th, 2008 at 12:33 am | Link
some of this comments are so stupid…and hey ppl listen up this is the united states not america! america is the continent not this country…nwys..hey people listen up, when u say that this “mexicans” use up the taxpayers money..well guess wut! u wrong!
……For those people who like to assume that illegal immigrants use federal services without paying any taxes I am afraid they are very wrong, they actually pay for benefits they are not entitled to receive or some even pay for it without even know in it. I don’t know if people think that most illegal immigrants get paid cash, well it’s not true, these people get paid with checks which already get deducted for taxes, and when they go cash their checks they get charged an amount since they don’t have a bank account, so this is their way of paying taxes, but they get nothing back like I do when the government deducts my wage from each check I get.
This are not the only ways that people pay taxes, some people even have an IRS number because they are required to get one, and they pay their taxes just like any other person in this country. Illegal immigrants contribute to the economy by buying goods and services such as, food, cars, and houses, they get haircuts, go to restaurants, and similar things. There are illegal immigrants that start their own companies, and probably go through a harder procedure to legally start one because of their status.
Ariel on February 18th, 2008 at 9:50 pm | Link
yo, these immigrants need to go. if they close the border than that means no access what makes them special. nd yet they have the chocolate ballsto cry how they dont hav a drives liscence. well go get naturalized of get the hell out of here. ur not wanted here. if u really want to be here, then devout your life to be here. study and take the test like everyone else. just cuz ur mexican or chinese or ethiopian or w/e ur choice is, dont mean u get special privilages. so eiter deal wit the rules or get the hell out. dont make american start speakin spanish when this is our country. now im fine with the legal immigrants im proud of what they’ve dont congrats. but u guys get all the rap for the dumb ones who are actin redicuous. if we dont fix it son those bastards will over rule us. i can c it now.
Baller on February 28th, 2008 at 8:55 am | Link
all immigrants need to go home, if they disagree the just shoot them who cares. nobody wants them thats y their here illegally. if somethings not done soon, i hope that all get a disease and die. THIS IS OUR COUNTRY BITCHES, GET THE HELL OUT. (i lov all registereed immigrants. thnx for everything. u tought me alot)
Baller on February 28th, 2008 at 8:59 am | Link
@Juan, Yes we all know exactly why the illegals are here. Most of them yes cuz they are searching for a better life. So why not start the better life out right and legally….. Yeah they have no roofs no water no medicine in Mexico (or w/e they may be from) and look at em here. You go look at the communities occupied by these people they are the same! You give em good quality and they ruin it thats why they can’t make it their own country and is the same reason they cry here. You wanna argue this point Ill even give you one example the Mexican bologna they import this stuff unrefrigerated from unregulated factories illegally by the truck load. If this is the behavior that you think made this country great you are so sadly mistaken. This helps no one and hurt everyone.
@Ariel Hey your right this is the USA It is also America but of course your right America encompasses much more Canada, Mexico, etc.
Now for you saying illegals don’t consume taxpayer resources your are flat wrong! I will say to you what I say to everyone who posses a profoundly incorrect position where are your sources. (documented, verifiable sources). first lets start with what the border patrol costs us without these river crossing illegals we would have no need for the border patrol just the proposed fence is going to cost us nearly 50 billion dollars source.www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/08/BAG6RNEJJG1.DTL - 55k -
Medical care these illegals seek and not pay for cost us how much? Just in california it is nearly 1 and 1/2 billion dollars and you add education, incarceration, to that it rockets off to over 10 billion.
Source http://archive.newsmax.com/arc.....0334.shtml
And guess what there is not one employer who is willing to spend the money on fines and the time in jail that deducting taxes from an illegals wage would be sure to get him. Yeah if you as an employer hire an illegal you can get in big big trouble while the illegal goes free. This is why there is not going to be any tax money reported on this guys check!
source http://nationalhogfarmer.com/m.....l_workers/
and hello mcfly anybody home there? anyone who cashes a check without an account equally gets charged at most banks…..this is not a tax it is a fee charged for a service just like if you were to got to the laundry you think they let you wash your cloths for free just cuz you don’t have a washer at home?
And its not the government who deducts from your check its your employer and your employer has to pay the government for the privilege of you working for him and in your name!
IRS numbers what the hell is an IRS number?
and yes they contribute to our economy by buying illegally imported Mexican bologna from Mexico. They send their money back to Mexico to help support their relatives back their, and have you seen the carnicerias and other specialty markets? How much of the product is from the USA? Anyway they are a long ways from making a major contribution to our economy, with the possible exception fo driving labor prices down! (which by the way is not unnecessarily good for our economy)
and when they start their companies yeah they go thru a harder time NOT cus they are illegal and cannot start a company so they do it illegally and therefore have to follow none of the rules the rest of us do.
Now go get your facts real ones (with real sources) not imagined ones and come back so we can have an intelligent debate.
mark on February 28th, 2008 at 6:56 pm | Link
No, no……… now really:
How can a nation (If you can call it that) who has this much natural resources be in such poverty?
Mexi People follow their government and raise them self up against the White population in the US. They always act in packs to infiltrate and destroy civilized areas to breed and advance.
Now I am not just making this up, if you invetigate the US Mexi border zone which is totally infested by mexis now has the economic thruput and the lowest per capita income in the US.
At the same time mexis infiltrate major industrial metropoles
Fersengelt on February 29th, 2008 at 11:45 pm | Link
@ Mark
“IRS numbers what the hell is an IRS number?”
hmm.. just thought you’d like to follow my link since you were so quick to judge and insult Ariel and in your attempt didnt even get all the information before throwing an angry question like the one you did out there.
i googled IRS number and it was hardly if at all difficult to find this link. i thought you would like to read closely the last line, it will answer your question..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.....ion_Number
oh and i think you’re to quick to draw generalizations about what illegals chose to eat. it would be ignorant to think that all they purchase are illegal imported foods and that those are the only expenses they have. it would be more ignorant to accept that though most send money back to mexico to help out their families that they do not have to spend money here on everyday expenses as Ariel mentioned. Sources are usually used when the information is largely in question. I don’t understand what is questionable about admitting that everyone, even illegals have to pay for things to survive here in the economy. Just because they are illegal you cannot assume everything they purchase is illegal and not contributing to the economy. Finally,
“Anyway they are a long ways from making a major contribution to our economy, with the possible exception fo driving labor prices down! (which by the way is not unnecessarily good for our economy)”
according to you? or who? where are your sources? you want to talk about sources, well then use them yourself. unless you have some notable degree in economics, i doubt you have the authority to make such judgement
Ana on March 21st, 2008 at 12:59 pm | Link
just thought to reply…but if u want to get sources..u might want to get official sourcers, not wikipidea…that is not necessarily correct…i didnt even bother to check it out, now i did do my research becuase i wrote a 10page paper on this subject which was my final exam. not only that but i know many, many people who are here illegally and they pay taxes just like any other person who is here legally.
Ariel on March 21st, 2008 at 10:06 pm | Link
one more thing, when they say that these people lower the wages, its kind of hippocrate because people like to get their groceries for a low price, and why do you think groceries are sold at a price that all of us can afford? because they pay them less, now think if they did get rid of all these people, all registered immigrants and citizens would ask for higher wages which would make things more expensive.
Ariel on March 21st, 2008 at 10:25 pm | Link
@Ana
Ok followed your link because I do want to know what an IRS number is..
I found. A Tax Identification Number TIN is an identifying number assigned by the IRS (Internal Revenue Service.) It can also be called an EIN (Employer Identification Number or a FEIN (Federal Employer Identification Number. The terms FEIN, EIN, or TIN can be used interchangeably.
ok so where does IRS number come in here? just cuz its assigned by the irs doesn’t make it an IRS Number it is a TIN or Taxpayer Identification Number.
Ana it sounds like you need to read a bit more carefully or take some lessons in reading comprehension becuase you took nearly everything in my post out context,
Owell eat bologna and die of lysteriosis I don’t care! But will the mother of your children?
@Ariel you hit on my point exactly the illegals drive labor costs down house prices literally across the board cheap labor prices bring us things much cheaper.. and yes I agree while wikipedia is a good research tool its reliability is questionable at best.
mark on March 28th, 2008 at 5:41 pm | Link
@mark
Okay whether she had the name right or not, you as well as I know that that was she was referring to “FEIN, EIN, or TIN” . If I could google, literally, “IRS number” and it directed me to this link and many others that explain these different numbers, its only obvious that this is what she meant when she wrote “IRS number”. You were trying to deny such a number and whatever she claimed that assigned number would be used for and are now trying to claim, (in correcting my directed link and loose usage of “IRS number”) that all along you meant to call her out on the incorrect label for that number.
and there you go again, before being able to even refute the ways in which i “took out of context your statements”, you insulted me by trying to question my reading comprehension. I think you are too quick to judge others, and honestly it makes me hesitant to accept anything you have to say on the matter as you would probably be too quick to judge illegal immigrants as merely “mexicans hurting our economy” with not enough evidence or understanding.
I really do not understand how you can claim i took your statements out of context when one of your points in writing
“and have you seen the carnicerias and other specialty markets? How much of the product is from the USA?”
“yes they contribute to our economy by buying illegally imported Mexican bologna from Mexico”
is obviously stated in such a way to make the reader answer, “not much of the product is from the USA” and so they (illegals) DO NOT contribute much or even at all to the economy. your second quote is also meant to state that this is the only way they “would” contribute to the US, buying foods that really aren’t from the US so in the end they are once again proven not to be contributing to our economy…
i didnt make remarks about your other points because, honestly, you have some reason, but I am insulted that you would make such statements, the ones I addressed, and expect me and any other reader to be ignorant and accept your claims without really thinking about what you just said. I found a few faults in your statements and instead of correcting (even clarifying) yourself you insulted me.
Ana on April 1st, 2008 at 4:40 pm | Link
…about the “IRS number” Ana, i did not bother research that which is why i did not know what the correct name was, but i decided to write this without researching it because i know people that pay their taxes like this, irs number was just a name that i came up with it. But hey thanks for doing the research for me, you proved that i was right…and that there is such thing. Now, im not going to insult you becuase i dont want to go down to your level and rely on insults.
Ariel on April 1st, 2008 at 7:06 pm | Link
my earlier comment goes to mark…not ana…
Ariel on April 1st, 2008 at 7:25 pm | Link
@Ana Ok so maybe she called it the wrong thing but no I had no idea that she was referring to a TIN or EIN, These id numbers were not developed to allow illegal aliens to pay their taxes which you would know if you had bothered to read the reference you had posted. It turns out that illegals who somehow have gotten a TIN can pay taxes (not income taxes) thru this number. An EIN is the number an employer has to have before they can legally hire employees. A TIN is a number issued to sole proprietor businesses who do not typically employee others but hire out their services as contract labor. This allows the company hiring the business to deduct the amount paid as contract labor and not as a salary. So these numbers really are misused if the context Ariel talks about them in. IRS number or whatever label you want to give them!
Why did I not refute the out of context well quite frankly I don’t have the time to bother with it Sorry. Just as another generalization as you say I do. My writings are very concise very simple to the point (full of grammer and spelling errors) but contain a high degree of sarcasm. You have you ever heard the term illustrating absurdity by being absurd?
How do the specifically illegal Mexican immigrants hurt our economy I think I have clearly stated above but in a nutshell they drive our prices down. When we have a group of people who either will not work (not the illegals they are some of the hardest working people on earth) or people who are willing to by choice or necessity to work for very low or lower then normal wages. This creates an inequitable distribution of wealth and creates an underclass who must use in excess public services (if they are illegals then they are illegally using these services). This make the rest of us pay for it and drives our medical cost up it drives up our taxes. Look at the Dominican republic and Haiti the same sort of problem exists with the illegal Haitians entering the Dominican.
So Ana when something seems out of place absurd or whatnot when I write it you must take it as such. This is how you took my writings out of context.
So if you want to pick on the fact there a handful of illegal aliens (from where ever) that are by some quirk of the system paying taxes then I have the some pass to pick on the carnicerias who’s purpose are specifically to sell Mexican products.
The bologna is the same thing but is a truly huge problem in the USA
Google this to learn more illegal Mexican bologna or check out this link… http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/new.....2005_2.xml
Health officials are disposing of tons of this stuff a year and it is estimated that only about 2% is ever found.
And just one more comment concerning
Ana said,
“honestly it makes me hesitant to accept anything you have to say on the matter ”
Ana, you shouldn’t accept anything anyone says as matter of fact without going out and doing your research. That is why I’m so adamant on always saying where is your source.
mark on April 2nd, 2008 at 4:52 pm | Link
@ mark
I really appreciate your time to write it out the way it really was.
I didnt mean to sound too critical or mean, but I am glad you made yourself clear and I can say that I agree with many of your points.
Ana on April 5th, 2008 at 1:58 pm | Link
Here are the facts behind illegal immigration:
Most Mexicans come here to make more money and to have a better life. Don’t judge an entire nation based off of a few jerks who come here to kill, rape, and milk the system. If I were to judge America based off of what I see, I would have to call Americans lazy. Oh, and all the women are sluts as well. (Ever seen Baywatch? Now what kind of image does that show send to other nations in the world? Which, in fact, at one time, it was the most watched show in the Middle East. Yes, it is true. Look it up.)
Mexicans pay taxes. Very few are paid under the table. They receive checks just like everybody else and pay taxes just like everybody else. Allowing them to have an ITIN number allows them to file taxes legally and be law abiding “citizens” of the United States.
If you go against illegal immigration, then you are going against the very basis of this country. When did the Native Americans (who this land clearly belonged to before the Europeans started murdering and abusing them) ask the members of the Mayflower for papers? They should have and sent them back home if they didn’t have them. It is only fair, after all.
Illegal immigration “is”, in fact, a business. Ever heard of privately owned prisons in the United States that receive billions of dollars a year from the government to house illegal immigrants? They encourage them to cross illegally so that they can make even more money. The illegal sits in jail for years with no trial and awaiting for deportation. The private prisons get paid for every inmate they have, so the longer they stay there, the better.
It is not easy to obtain a visa from the mexican consulate. In order to apply, you have to pay a huge amount of pesos and risk being rejected. Instead of wasting 1,500 pesos, they cross illegally. Look around you when you see Mexican tourists - MOST of them are very wealthy who are rewarded travel visas because they are rich and the government knew they had a reason to come back to Mexico.
The politicians DO NOT WANT to solve the illegal immigration crisis. If they did so, then they would have no platform to stand on in order to run for office. The problem hepls their political career. They all stand on their soap boxes offering to solve the problem but they never will. It is a game in which our government will always win.
The government wants illegal immigrants so that we can pay them less. Pay a white guy $10.00 an hour but pay an illegal $8.00 an hour for the same job. Companies know that the illegal does not have enough money to hire an attorney to fight their rights. They just want food on the table.
These are the facts of the case. Argue with them all you want to but is the way it is and, as long as the government makes money off of them, it will never change.
CollegeGal on April 16th, 2008 at 1:23 pm | Link
Educate yourself about the Corrections Corporation of America:
http://www.correctionscorp.com/
Also note that this place is funded by the United States Government.
CollegeGal on April 16th, 2008 at 1:31 pm | Link
could not agree anymore with CollegeGal, only thing i wanted to add was to include all other illegal immigrants not only mexicans.
ariel on April 16th, 2008 at 1:43 pm | Link
i think that there is nothing wrong with illegal immirgrants. because we dont know what is going on in there country.and what type of problems they have.most of them have many children and dont have good jobs to support them. so they come to the u.s looking for support. they need something or someone to help them.
brittanyc on April 30th, 2008 at 11:10 am | Link
Whos fault is it that they have many children. Good God this is why we don’t want them here cuz they don’t have the responsibility to keep it in their pants in their own country and produce kids like breading rats and can’t afford them! So lets make it the problem of the United States because these people can’t practice a little restraint and their religion forbids birth control and they just don’t want to use BC. Ok heres some help drop a plan loads of condoms on them!!!
msmmark on May 1st, 2008 at 10:54 pm | Link
******A lot of opinions, a lot of overreacting opinions**** I must ask the audience a question: Does any of you own your own business? If so, you would know what a “send them all bastards back” policy would do to you. For all the others, and with all due respect I ask: Do you understand now why most of the world dislike americans?. **By the way, I don’t live in the States and I am not Mexican or illegal immigrant, but if I were, I would be proud to be contributing to the society I ‘d be living in.
mao fab on June 27th, 2008 at 9:46 pm | Link
@ mao fab yes we know our business. Yes a send them all back policy would 1. free up services for our legal citizens. 2. it would increase the cost of labor bringing back free market approach to the labor market. 3. It would reduce the influx of cheap products (houses) in the American market. 4. It would give employment to many Americans who need it. 5 It would open up new channels for people to legally immigrate here to help fill labor demands. 6. it would increase the tax bases for hour towns, cities, counties and federal government. 7. it would once and for all end the debate. 8. it would force politicians to run on issues and not try to buy votes of people here illegally by making them legal. 9. it would make this thread on my biggest complaint a lot less interesting. 10 it would send a clear message to the world America (USA) is still #1 and we will not let ourselves be overrun or overtaken. 11 it would secure our borders without question 12 because the borders would be secure it would increase the safety of our citizens and decrease the cost of our defense.
Yes of course we understand why most of the world dislike us. Its very simple. We have what everyone else wants. Thats why they all want to come here. It is very simple if you do something have something or know something then someone will try to take it away from you. ?That is why we are hated because we have know and do what everyone wants and they know they can’t get it from us so they do the next best thing they hate us!. I other words they are jealous of what we have.
People proud to contribute to our society is what we need, not people who are here because they can get more from our society than they can from their country of origin.
mark on July 1st, 2008 at 1:55 pm | Link
@ mark
Ignorance is bliss, someone said.. IF the 12 points you are describing are true, then ALL your problems are solved, just by getting rid of the Mexicans. RUBBISH!!, the kind of trash one would hear in CNN all day. How great America is. how everybody wants what you have. The American dream, yadda yadda yaddda.. I bet you have never been out of your own state in your life to see the real world.
I am sorry to wake you up, but the states DOES NOT have what everybody wants. Some countries have what the US wants, rather.
OIL my friend.
Let me try to be explicit and describe why in my perspective, most of the world hates the US.
(America is the continent from Argentina to Alaska, not only the US in case you did not know)
Since Hitler invade Poland, (about 70 years ago) your volunteered Army has invaded, or bombed PANAMA, GRENADA, CUBA, HAITI, SOMALIA, SUDAN,BOSNIA, KOSOVO, SERBIA LIBYA, JAPAN, KOREA, VIET NAM, LAOS, CAMBODIA IRAK (twice) AFGHANISTAN. Let´s not forget the declared war on terrorism.. In case you did not know, the US spends more in military than the next 21 highest spending countries put together, including China, Russia, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and Israel. Talk about walking with the chip on the shoulder as the saying goes…Now believing that the US is peace loving country is a bit far from the reality. I think that if the US were a man, instead of a country, he would be schizophrenic to say the least. It would be like a New York thug who has a serious fight a day believing he is a mild guy. Now that´s spoon feeding or plain denial.
Kill a man or 2 in GW Bush´s Texas and you are put to death. Kill scores in the name of War against terrorism and nothing happens to you.
Weapons of mass destructions used as pretext to kill innocent people. NONE FOUND. If they were found, please enlighten me… you would be the first in the world. UN´s Hans Blix came up dry. CIA´s David Kay came up dry. As well as Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair. And Mr. Bin Laden still at large…
Reminds me of one of the great slogans of all time: “Bread and circus for the masses”
These are facts and real problems for the world. The illegal immigration issue is just something that can be dealt with with the proper policies. Some rich countries in the world have adopted those policies and have succeeded..
regards
mao on July 14th, 2008 at 8:53 pm | Link
Any white man who’s hysterical and angry as hell about “Mexicans” taking their jobs are just as stupid as the next. White man, are you really going to go out there and pick fruit and spend 8 hours in the sun and do some other back breaking, hard labor? Yeah, I didn’t think so. You know that you’re not up to it. You’re too… proud.
But white man, I didn’t come here to insult you. I came here to give you some advice. The real “enemy” (because throughout history, you always seem to like to have one. Remember the blacks?) you should be tremendously worried about are right under your nose. You just don’t seem them because apparently they’re the “model minority”. You welcome enjoy having these benevolent creatures because they try their damnedest to be like you. What’s that word you love? Ah yes, assimilate. Throw out your culture and adopt meatloaf, corn and potatoes. It’s sad, really. You won’t ever find Latinos pretending to be someone else to kiss ass.
Anyway, back to my point. While you’re out picking on the poorest Mexican (because poor people suck, don’t they whitey?), the Asian is silently undermining you. Quietly taking over your communities, your REAL jobs and especially university admission slots away from little Jennifer and Johnny. Yes, that’s right. Because you’ve been busy hating Mexicans, Asians are taking over the future. An Asian Invasion some call it. Like I said, You haven’t noticed because they’re so noble, law-abiding and they like a can of Bud just like you, or at least they pretend they do so you’ll accept them. They know what’s up and know how to play you.
It’s doesn’t matter what anyone says: We are in the land of racism and yes, we are going to get dirty and kick the other’s ass in order to get ahead culturally and be on top. But the future looks like it’s in the hands of the Asians. They’ve pulled it off masterfully. They overpopulate the best schools, have even been known to take over white communities with the best schools and most significantly are overwhelmingly the new majority in colleges and universities. Guess what folks? That education leads to the jobs of the future.
So they next time you’re hating on Juan and Pedro, stop a moment and think about the future of you’re children. Because I kid you not, they’ll probably end up playing secretary, answering to and getting coffee for Mr. Chang, Mr. Kim and Mr. Nguyen.
Miguel on July 21st, 2008 at 7:07 am | Link
Never truer words were spoken Miguel…
mao on August 3rd, 2008 at 10:03 pm | Link
i think that all racist people have their piont but ill tell you what before columbus found this place u call yours..wll there were no white people they were brown..so these is our..we want better lifes for our children not like all of u crackhead think yall are the sh… u got paper than work stop selling weed and stop living in the streets just shut up and get a life at least were freaking trying you bunch of crackers…
iza on September 4th, 2008 at 11:55 am | Link
im a 4th generation irish citezen here it is in a nut shell with no bull ****. when my god damn family came here to work and find beter lives for ther familys, just like you damn criminal mexicans. they had to sped 2 weeks on dirty stinking bots, hang out at ellis island for three months, in **** conditons, fill out tons of grueling paper work, take months of classes and wait 3 to 10 years for there naturalazation papers,there was no such thing as damn ancor babys (of wich you all have at least 12) so why dont you ratt uneducated poverty stricken CRIMINALS , PACK UP YOUR BEAN BAGS AND GO BACK TO THE **** HOLE YOU CAME OUT OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shawn barton on September 17th, 2008 at 9:53 pm | Link
Hey Shawn.
You are a “4th Generation Irish citizen” right?
What the hell is that?
Are you Irish or American?
Go to Ireland and everyone will regard you as American.
BUT in your own country, you don’t feel American. That lack of identity must create the type of hate you display in your words.
You see, the *****hole your ancestors came out was far worst tha the Mexican ***hole nowadays.
Do your homework. Google “Irish Great Famine” and you will find out that the tons of grueling paperwork they had to endure was the least of their problem. They were dying overthere! chewing their own shoe soles to keep their babies alive. Does Angela’s Ashes ring a bell?
You talk about uneducated criminal rats and you cannot even spell correctly.
Did you finish your High School? my Irish friend?
mao on September 20th, 2008 at 6:27 pm | Link
the biggest problem is there total lack of direspect for this country in general. MAYOnaise.im from so cal, did you hapen to cat the marches in L.A. they were all waving mexican flags, shouting reconquita, total bull **** dude they dont give a **** about the U.S.A. they just want to take advantage of what ever they think they can get for free. in the mean time trasing evey neighborhood the move in to,I.E. couches and toilets piled up on the side of the road, asimilate my ass they dont even make an attemp to speak english. lets not forget the whole point here, ILLEGAL IMIGRANTS. that mens none of them give a **** to even bother doing the right thing. think about it , its your country to do you want it looki like that country, and another thing if there so god damn proud of mexico ,wich they all are mexican flags every where, why the hell dont they jus stay over there and qut messing are hood up, we got enough problems with our own, we dont need the burden of takig care of millions of them and there hitos
shawn barton on September 23rd, 2008 at 12:19 am | Link
@ mao Yeah you see you can not argue on an intellegent level so you must use excessive profanity and attack things that really don’t matter such as typos and spelling. You mao have your share of typos/spelling errors. Should we infer from that you did not finish high school? Shawns post is more easily readable and understandable even with his spelling/typo erros than yours.
Shawn simply is infering his ancestory is from ireland…and has been a proud USA citizens for 4 generations. How can you infer how Shawn feels in ireland or in the USA.
Your post is purly of opinion and no facts Shawn on the other hand presents relevant facts.
Unfortunaly the stereotype shawn presents is often too true!
mark on September 23rd, 2008 at 8:20 am | Link
I must apologize about my English. It is not my fist language. It’s good to see that you toned down your rhetoric Mark. At the end this blog is about opinions, because the facts are deeply distorted by American mass media. Read my other post and you will also see unarguable facts.
mao on September 23rd, 2008 at 8:42 am | Link