I don’t know whether or not it has anything to do with (as in “is a result of” or “caused”) the fact that Ford is now over $8 billion in debt, but their customer service is awful.
I thought I was getting a good deal when I found a 2-year-old Ford Focus (not far from 3) with only 8k miles on it. Suppose it was a good deal in terms of ticket price and loss of value… somebody else’s loss is my gain.
Then the tires wore out evenly.
Just after my warranty expired (remember, it goes to 36k or THREE YEARS, which is the key phrase in my scenario), the tires wore out. As they came to their end of life, I was able to see that they wore more on the inside than on the outside (on both rear tires). Not being one to be easily alarmed (and not having received any notice of a recall or TSB), I thought what anybody would think - that a car with 24,000 miles on it couldn’t possibly have suspension that worn out. This owner before me may have hauled heavy weight often (after all, he was a truck driver - which was the explanation I was given as to why the miles were so low in comparison with age).
So I put new tires on. And I crossed my fingers. Well, now those are worn out, and the problem with the rear has even worsened some (as illustrated by the increased difference between the tire inside and outside on this second set of tires). So I take it to the shop. Turns out there’s a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin - basically an acknowledgement that Ford screwed up with a part and is willing to replace it for free - if you’re under warranty, of course). So I get the local Ford dealer on the phone. I ask him straight-out if it’s his decision or Ford headquarters’ decision whether or not this will be replace for free since the car is out of warranty. Explain that I could not reasonably have identified the problem while it was under warranty. He is honest and explains that Ford has to make the call. Gives me the number.
So I call Ford customer service. This is where the story gets very sour. Milli was a bit impatient and was very eager to tell me early-on in the conversation that Ford unfortunately cannot make exceptions to the warranty period. I called her bluff and explained that I was already aware that it’s possible AND it’s Ford HQ’s decision.
She refuses to help me and goes further to tell me that it has to be diagnosed with the problem at a Ford dealer. It apparently doesn’t matter that the dealer told me he’d gladly fix the problem that was diagnosed by a technician in the area with whom his Ford dealership has been familiar for years. Needless to say, I eventually tired of the circle that Milli and I were running around, and I called the local dealer back up.
Now, for the sake of fairness I want to make one thing clear. FORD has disgusting customer service and service policies. My LOCAL FORD DEALER does not. In the 20 or so minutes I was on the phone with customer service, my local dealer’s technician had spoken with his senior manager. He was very honest and told me that although he would make the repair and felt that I was being punished for finding a good deal, the problem was that Ford itself would not reimburse him for the work his shop did, because they see things in black and white and simply wouldn’t cover me because I’m out of warranty.
Well, guess what. Now I’m out of Ford too. My wife’s Subaru is a modern marvel of glory. I think it’s about time I had some all wheel drive, lasting parts, and good service.
Oh, and one more thing about the local Ford dealer’s technician. He was also grateful that I explained to him about my Dodge Dakota with 185,000 miles (you read that correctly) that has NO suspension problems to date. Because he just bought his son one. That’s your pure and outright argument for Ford right their. Even their own technicians won’t drive Fords.
That’s embarrassing.



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i leased a 2008 f350 6.4 and its one year old with 31,000 miles and the motor is blown and ford told me its a maintance issue i brough the reciets to them but because i pais cash nfor the oil changes and the mech does not have a computer im screwed if any one can help ?
eric maclean on August 7th, 2008 at 5:31 pm | Link
If there is a TSB for the problem and Ford will not honor it, then I’d hire an attorney and Ford would then own that car again. You can check for TSB’s on ANY vehicle at www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/ . Also with the oil changes, all you have to have is your mechanic write you out a receipt for every oil change. It does not matter that he doesn’t keep computerized records.
There is a reason Ford is in the crapper, poor designs, unreliablity, poor quality, the list goes on. It will be nice to finally see Ford gobbled up by the Asians.
Ralson on September 21st, 2008 at 11:53 pm | Link
**To address “Mr. Lack of Maintenance” -Eric Maclean -Ford recommends you have oil changes and other maintenance services done at a ford dealer. This is recommended to ensure that the maintenance is being done properly using the correct fluids, filters,equiptment, etc. So, if you took it to JOE BLOW Mechanic and now your engine is blown and it was determined it was caused due to the vehicle not being maintained properly, that is not a defect in the ford product it is something that was caused by the people who improperly did your maintenance. Thus, that is why warranty coverage was denied. I would contact who ever did your maintenance and cry to them, not ford.
This message is to “Mr. Get an Attorney” -Ralson. - TSB stands for Technical Service Bulletin. A TSB is a piece of documentation that Technicians/Mechanics have that identifies an updated repair procedure or use of parts for a paticular problem that may occur. It may also identify testing procedures for a paticular problem as well. A TSB is not the same thing as a recall and a TSB does not provide coverage for cost of a repair. So, unless you are going to contact an attorney that will provide a free consultation, don’t waste your time or money trying to take legal action against ford for having a TSB about an issue and not paying for the repair once vehicle is outside of warranty.
No your facts on September 26th, 2008 at 4:34 pm | Link
It is not a REQUIREMENT to have your vehicle serviced at a dealer! I service my own truck, so using YOUR logic my warranty is null and void. There is no law in place stating that during the warranty period you MUST use factory oil, filters, etc. As long as the parts you use meet the factory specs, they are fine to use. Ford CANNOT say otherwise! The oil (if thats what Ford says is the issue) should be sent to a lab to be analyzed to determine how old it is, the weight used, etc. Plus, the first answer from Ford will ALWAYS be NO. DO NOT SETTLE for Milli’s answer, go higher up the chain.
KNOW what you are talking about on November 30th, 2008 at 7:25 pm | Link
I own a 1997 Ford F250 with a 5.4 eng.witch cost too much to start with, what could go wrong went wrong. To start with the parts are way to much, I just purchase another coil and M14 inserts for the head of the motor witch cost 126.76 so far I have put over 4,000.00 on repairs pass 14 months, body is excellent condition,I think the Parts you sell are way to much.0 699-1713 M14 inserts A43 44.95 Should’t be any more than 3 or 5 dollars at the most.
James D. Worden on December 29th, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Link